Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.PCS 1/10/84; site hocsj.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!drutx!houxe!hogpc!pegasus!hocsj!ecl From: ecl@hocsj.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Association for Women in Computing Message-ID: <194@hocsj.UUCP> Date: Sun, 28-Oct-84 09:29:28 EST Article-I.D.: hocsj.194 Posted: Sun Oct 28 09:29:28 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 29-Oct-84 02:47:37 EST Organization: AT&T Information Systems Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 26 Reference: <3953@tektroni.UUCP>, <9200017@iuvax.UUCP> I for one am against this sort of organization--can someone out there convince me that this isn't an example of another futile attempt at "separate but equal"? I don't want women's professional organizations that parallel men's--I want one organization for everyone. Women's groups would sue the asses off any company that started a separate "women's division" where they hired all the women. And they certainly couldn't (and shouldn't be allowed to) start a "women-only" company. Aren't many of the supporters of these "Women in Computing" groups the same ones who are suing the Jaycees et al to force them to admit women? (And how would people feel about an organization called "the Association for Jews in Computing" or "the Association for the Handicapped in Computing"?) It may be true that "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" but the important word here is "foolish," folks. Far too many advocacy groups ignore all logic and consistency in their positions. If women don't want their gender to be considered in the workplace, they should start by not making an issue of it themselves. Evelyn C. Leeper ...ihnp4!hocsj!ecl