Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site randvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!randvax!edhall From: edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: Re: violence Message-ID: <2074@randvax.UUCP> Date: Sat, 27-Oct-84 22:40:08 EST Article-I.D.: randvax.2074 Posted: Sat Oct 27 22:40:08 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 29-Oct-84 03:23:30 EST References: <328@mako.UUCP> <597@gloria.UUCP>, <2484@rochester.UUCP> Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 26 Mike, I think you are missing an essential point here. A rapist could have any of a number of motivations; I'll agree with that. However, the victim experiences it as an act of violence. Without exception. That's what makes it rape. All this wordplay just clouds the issue. Why insist on viewing things from the criminal's point of view? When you claim that rape is an act of sex, you aren't giving any more insight than if you say robbery is an act of greed. It is the violence experienced by the victim that defines the crime, *not* the motivation of the criminal. The reason that feminists underscore that rape is a crime of VIOLENCE and not SEX is to counteract common myths that there is something normal about rape, and that it is merely a matter of sexual aberration, or of over-strong male sex drive, or (and these are the sickest) that it is a matter of a woman not knowing what she should like, or even that women secretly like to be raped. These myths are all execrable nonsense. And, unless my experience of other men is exceptional, very common. I have to admit to being damned tired of these trivializing academic discussions which utterly fail to address this extremely important issue. -Ed Hall decvax!randvax!edhall