Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.PCS 1/10/84; site hocse.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!hogpc!pegasus!hocse!dls From: dls@hocse.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Association for Women in Computing Message-ID: <173@hocse.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Oct-84 09:50:09 EST Article-I.D.: hocse.173 Posted: Wed Oct 31 09:50:09 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Nov-84 04:58:09 EST Organization: AT&T Information Systems Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 18 CC: skran Reference: <194@hocsj.UUCP>, <9625@watmath.UUCP> There is no doubt that organizing a special interest group can aid members of minority groups. However, I believe that ecl has a somewhat different point. There is a big difference between a "woman's caucus" in the ACM that works to change the ACM and a "woman's computer society" that is totally separate. Until women become integrated into the REAL power structure true equality will not exist. Hence, women must join and be active in the ACM, the jaycees, etc., not substitute women only groups that have no real power. In fact, the energy expended on maintained a duplicative organization is counterproductive. Dale