Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihu1g.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!ihnp4!ihu1g!smann From: smann@ihu1g.UUCP (Sherry Mann) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Minutes of first meeting, Association for MEN in Computing Message-ID: <547@ihu1g.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Nov-84 13:02:05 EST Article-I.D.: ihu1g.547 Posted: Thu Nov 1 13:02:05 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Nov-84 01:42:08 EST References: <2450@ihuxf.UUCP> <205@looking.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 18 What makes the minutes of this meeting humorous, and I did find them humorous, is not that when applied to men, the ridiculous of such thinking (applied to either gender) becomes apparent, but the merely the fact that it is not necessary to point out that a "famous" composer was a man, or the writer of a system was a man to prevent people from assuming that they were women. The reason women have to make a point of pointing out the accomplishments of women is that if we don't, they won't get acknowledged The reason women form their own associations is because they often don't have power in male dominated bastions. Far from hurting women, far from creating a "separate but equal" status, women's organizations and women's acknowledging the accomplishments of women are helping women to become integrated into society as a whole on a more equal basis.