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From: chabot@amber.DEC (L S Chabot)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Association for Women in Computing
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Date: Mon, 5-Nov-84 18:08:40 EST
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acf4!greenber  ==  >

> Proposed Group                            To Ridicule
> ==================                      ================
> Heterosexual Student Union		Gay Student Union
> White Student Union			Black Student Union
> Agnostics Club			Jewish Club
> Men Student Union			Womens Student Union
>
> Now I know "We've been deprived for so long and we have special needs, so
> we deserve our own group".  BULL!  If you want equality, START NOW.  You
> should just as hotly protest any group dedicated to the advancement of any
> one "class" or "type" of people as you would one you considered to be
> prejudical to your own favorite group, class, or type.

Of course, it never crossed your cute little mind that these groups were 
organized for purposes other than "the advancement of any 'one' class or 
'type'".  What about this idea--they're organized as a forum to discuss common
interests.  Gee, what would the Jewish Club discuss?  Why can't they just join
Campus Crusade for Christ?  Or what would the Gay Student Union ever have to 
talk about? (and where I went to school, such an organization didn't restrict
it's membership--what are they going to do, demand proof?) 

And, of course, equality is here, so there's no discrimination, so there's 
absolutely no need for gays, blacks, jews, or women to want to gather and 
possibly discuss any discrimination they may have experienced.  Obviously 
they're all nuts, and should instead be attending group therapy to adjust 
themselves to "reality".

Was similar action taken against any clubs organized around hobbies, say:

  Proposed Group                          To Ridicule
==================                      ================
"fans are fools" club			science fiction club
two left feet club			dance club
local chapter of the flat earth		IEEE or ACM student chapters
	society
go fish club				bridge club
chess-board-upheaval society		chess club
stay inside and watch tv club		mountaineering club
tone-deaf club				music society
model kangaroo-court club		model railroad club
Society for Creative			SCA
	Contemporaneousness

After all, who do these people think they are, organizing themselves with
directions to discussing things in which **I** have absolutely no interest
(not being genetically/societally/by-choice a railroad afficionado)!  They'd 
do better to integrate themselves into "normal" society, and forget about 
their individual differences.

I just *love* it when people expose their prejudices in the net!

L S Chabot
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