Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watcgl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watcgl!dmmartindale From: dmmartindale@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Martindale) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: A vote *against* net.women.only Message-ID: <389@watcgl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Nov-84 13:02:23 EST Article-I.D.: watcgl.389 Posted: Fri Nov 9 13:02:23 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Nov-84 09:07:22 EST References: <224@hocsj.UUCP> <1779@sun.uucp> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 26 > > I've just read David DiGiacomo's article on [Sunny's] rationale(?) for > > net.women.only. (Whether or not David DiGiacomo should have posted what was > > obviously a personal reply to the net is a moot point now. > > It is not a moot point. It is further evidence of male hostility to womens' > private space. [.....] > > {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Sunny Kirsten of Sun Microsystems Inc.) I must take exception to this one comment of Sunny's. I don't see any need to interpret the posting as "evidence of male hostility to womens' private space". I think "evidence of hostility to being told that he can't do whatever he pleases" is quite sufficient. I've found that men in general (and women, for that matter!) do not take kindly to being told to shut up, even under circumstances where it is clear to most people that, in fact, they should not be saying anything (such as a man posting to net.women.only). I've seen many flames about people having their "freedom of speech" suppressed when someone complained about the inappropriateness of an article in any of dozens of newsgroups; I don't think that the fact that "women" appears in the newsgroup name necessarily has anything to do with the article getting posted. Never assume malice when simple arrogance suffices, Dave Martindale