Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 UW 5/3/83; site uw-beaver Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!info-mac From: info-mac@uw-beaver (info-mac) Newsgroups: fa.info-mac Subject: Re: Macintosh language benchmarks Message-ID: <2235@uw-beaver> Date: Fri, 16-Nov-84 02:49:58 EST Article-I.D.: uw-beave.2235 Posted: Fri Nov 16 02:49:58 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Nov-84 03:42:38 EST Sender: yenbut@uw-beave Organization: U of Washington Computer Science Lines: 26 From: olson@harvard.ARPA (Eric Olson) I think "notoriously awful" is a little harsh as a description for Whitesmith's C available from SoftWorks. Although the code may be somewhat bloated (I haven't checked this thoroughly yet), the developement system is extremely complete, including C compiler and Apple's ASM, LINK, EDIT, and RMAKER. Since it has a resource compiler, it is at leat possible to create a Mac-style application in correct Mac STYLE (i.e., without any resources in-line in the code). I consider this VERY important. This C runs on a 128K Mac with (preferably) 2 drives (but of course would work with one). The turn-around time for Compile/Link/Rmaker is about 5-10 minutes. My point is this: It is a REAL system that can generate REAL Mac Applications on 1 (count 'em -- 1) Mac and nothing else. In regards to the linker: It's true, there is no function extractor (indeed, no librarian at all), but they supply the source for all but the core C libraries, so you can take what you need and generate your own libraries. In fact, just by splitting up the libraries into smaller chunks (right now they are OS, Toolbox, and Quickdraw, C .asm sources and C .c sources) a lot of this problem goes away. So let's be fair: it works, it's not too slow, and its STANDALONE! In my book, that's pretty darn good in MacIntosh world. -Eric