Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 8/23/84; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!ucbvax!ucbesvax!ucbcad!faustus From: faustus@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.abortion,net.politics,net.religion,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Re: Abortion and Capital Punishment Message-ID: <2794@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Sat, 17-Nov-84 02:57:22 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.2794 Posted: Sat Nov 17 02:57:22 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Nov-84 02:42:02 EST References: <1782@burdvax.UUCP> <779@ariel.UUCP> <359@klipper.UUCP> <315@qantel.UUCP> Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group, Berkeley, CA Lines: 28 > > Human fetuses are no humans, and may be aborted. Since birth does > > not miraculously brew "humans", the only logical limit is when > > it becomes clear that a child is reasonable. So I think parents > > should have the right to "kill" their children till something > > like the age of 12. In fact in Japan this is already an accepted > > point of view. Why would it suddenly be murder t " kill" a baby > > that two days ago still was a "fetus" and so possible subject to > > abortion? The natural limit would be this: At the moment a child > > would be able to live after being rejected by its parents, it > > could. Being removed from a womb is such a form of rejection. > > (In fact, this is also a [Ll]ibertarian idea: nobody has the duty > > to care for someone else, and children are held responsible for > > themselves) > > Is this supposed to be a sick joke or what? Either this is an example of how > ridiculous abortion is or this man wishes to be flamed to death. > > I have never heard such a evil thing on this network before. I can't believe > people really think like this. I hope no one else out there has this demented > view of children, whether you are pro-abortion or not. Does this man propose > that we set ourselves up higher than any other authority and kill children > because they can't take care of themselves? I just can't believe anyone could > say such a thing! Of course he's not serious. What I don't see is how somebody could possibly miss the ironic intent of the article... Wayne