Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxq.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihuxq!ken From: ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Birth control by ABORTION Message-ID: <1335@ihuxq.UUCP> Date: Sun, 18-Nov-84 14:12:20 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxq.1335 Posted: Sun Nov 18 14:12:20 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Nov-84 07:44:30 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 39 -- References: <1038@ut-ngp.UUCP> <667@oliven.UUCP> <1052@ut-ngp.UUCP>, <706@oliven.UUCP> -- [somebody said] > A fetus is a part of the woman's >body, pure and simple, until such time as it can carry on biological >processes on its own. [Rick says] >> This is where we depart. I find the fetus to be a human being of its >> own, with all rights pertaining thereto... >> rick Yes, let's talk about rights of fetuses--citizenship, for example. Any fetus conceived on U S Territory should be a US citizen. A fetus, as a citizen, then has the right to civil suit (well, someone would have to do it for him/her/it) *and* to be sued (well, as a minor, mom and dad will have to stand in). Think of all the lawyers who could get rich from the case of the fetus that doesn't want to be born. (Well, would you?) Or one twin embryo suing the other. Why not? Of course, any fetus would have to count as a person in any census or official population estimate, since that's how representatives are apportioned. What's more, fetus abuse would then become at least as punishable as pet abuse. That means that the mom-to-be, that's a *forced* mom-to-be, can't drink, smoke, or follow a less-than-proper diet. Better tie her down for 9 months and feed her intravenously. Rights for eggs, indeed. Hey, if conception is everything, how come all you "born-agains" don't call yourself "conceived-agains"? -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 12 Nov 84 [22 Brumaire An CXCIII] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-7188 ** ** ** ** ..ihnp4!iwsl8!ken *** ***