Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site wucs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!wucs!esk From: esk@wucs.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Densinger -- still has it wrong Message-ID: <497@wucs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Nov-84 17:26:57 EST Article-I.D.: wucs.497 Posted: Mon Nov 19 17:26:57 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Nov-84 00:11:07 EST Distribution: net Organization: Washington U. in St. Louis, CS Dept. Lines: 35 Densinger's errors center on this assertion: >> We simply CANNOT ever know moral Truth. First of all, knock off that capital T. Second, it ain't so. We can so know moral truth, using plain old human reason and experience. Note that small t. Moral truth is human truth; if a norm is valid for humans then it has to be knowable for us. Densinger goes on: >> This is why making personal moral decisions is so difficult ... If Densinger were right it wouldn't be difficult, it would be IMPOSSIBLE. The very concept of human freedom depends on our ability to know what norms apply to us. Tense, painful moral decisions are disvaluable, not valuable. It would be nice (though the possibility is purely hypothetical) if tough decisions were unnecessary. Tense decisions are also no paradigm of freedom. The less certain a decision is (if correct), the less free. (The more certain the less free if the decision is incorrect.) Densinger argues that "legalization is different because it is an arena in which the ... rules are known ... Laws are human-made ...". What he fails to realize is that laws can be criticized from a moral/philosophical point of view. Laws can be human-unmade too. The mere fact that our country has certain laws or Constitutional principles says nothing about what we should do. Densinger should reflect that the same Kant to whom he refers upheld the thesis that moral truths are humanly knowable and that universalizable principles can and must be used. There are limits to the limits of human reason. --The THIRD side, Paul V Torek, ihnp4!wucs!wucec1!pvt1047 Please send any mail directly to this address, not the sender's. Thanks.