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From: carnes@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Richard Carnes)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Abortion and the taking of life.
Message-ID: <236@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 25-Nov-84 19:34:19 EST
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Posted: Sun Nov 25 19:34:19 1984
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Bernd (new to net.abortion) writes:

>Since both the sperm and the ovum are alive even before joining, the
>beginning of life is not at conception either....
>     Therefore, if the taking of any life is murder:
>          Any abortion is murder.
>          Any form of birth control is murder, because the sperm
>               and the ovum will die without joining.
>          Any woman is a murderess if she does not stay pregnant.
>          Every man is a murderer because most of the sperm that 
>               he produces will die anyway.
>          Wet dreams are mass murder.
>          Celibacy is murder.

   Boy do you have a lot to learn, Bernd.  This is a transparent attempt to
inject reason and logic into an emotional, mud-slinging debate.  Are you
trying to spoil the fun, or what?  Pro-lifers know deep down in their hearts
that abortion is WRONG.  If you disagree, that's because you're an immoral
slimewad or a dumbshit liberal or both.  

   I'll say it a thousand times if I have to:  KEEP REASON, LOGIC, AND
FACTS OUT OF NET.ABORTION!!!  Liz Allen's recent description of an
abortion seems to me to be close to the ideal type of posting for 
this newsgroup.  

   From another writer:
> Unfortunately, thought is not a requirement when discussing abortion.

   It is ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN, twit!!

	Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes