Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.17 $; site trsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!trsvax!gordon From: gordon@trsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Re: If life begins at conception, th Message-ID: <71400002@trsvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 23-Nov-84 15:02:00 EST Article-I.D.: trsvax.71400002 Posted: Fri Nov 23 15:02:00 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 26-Nov-84 07:59:50 EST References: <2152@stolaf.UUCP> Lines: 30 Nf-ID: #R:stolaf:-215200:trsvax:71400002:000:1326 Nf-From: trsvax!gordon Nov 23 14:02:00 1984 > Very good! I think this is an interesting point of > discussion. By the "life begins at conception" argument, one > would think that IUD's murder human life. > This also brings up another matter which I've thought of > in conjunction with the "life begins at conception" argument. > It seems to me that one doesn't have to go far from this > argument to get to "birth control is wrong." All of our sex > cells are capable of initiating human life (if they meet up > with the right other-sex cell). What does this say to us > about spermacides, condoms, sponges, etc.? What does this say > to us about male masturbation? It seems to me that any argument along the lines "Birth control is wrong because it wastes the potential of sex cells, and such waste is murder" applies equally, if not more so, to abstinance. All forms of birth control have a chance of failure, even if regularly used properly. Actually practiced abstinance doesn't. There must be an awful lot of murderers out there: many teenagers and singles, married couples living apart or just not "sufficiently" participating in sex, people in prison, etc., wasting the potential of their cells. > > ... > > -Chuck Densinger @ St. Olaf > {decvax|ihnp4}!stolaf!densinge Gordon Burditt ctvax!trsvax!sneaky!gordon