Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site uwmacc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) Newsgroups: net.bio,net.origins,net.sci Subject: Re: The missing step -- self-reproducing organisms Message-ID: <474@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 20-Nov-84 09:57:46 EST Article-I.D.: uwmacc.474 Posted: Tue Nov 20 09:57:46 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 22-Nov-84 06:29:20 EST References: gatech.10770 <3469@ecsvax.UUCP> <10810@gatech.UUCP> <1262@hao.UUCP> Organization: UW Primate Center Lines: 18 > > I think the concept that everyone is trying to get at here is this: > > If an event has a probability of occuring that is greater than zero, and there > are an infinite number of attempts at it, then the probability that it will > eventually occur is indeed 1, no matter how small the probability that it will > happen on a given attempt. The only assumption needed here is that time > goes on forever (and I'm not going to debate that here, I take that as a given). This argument is an example of the gambler's fallacy: if I lose *this* time, then it's more likely I'll win *next* time. The outcome of event i does not affect the outcome of event j in any way, for independent events. (If the events are not independent, then the above argument doesn't apply anyway.) The event could occur the first time; it might never occur. -- Paul DuBois {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois