Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ccivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!rochester!ritcv!ccivax!crp From: crp@ccivax.UUCP (Chuck Privitera) Newsgroups: net.bugs.4bsd,net.bugs.2bsd Subject: Problem with 4.2BSD talk Message-ID: <220@ccivax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-Nov-84 15:33:05 EST Article-I.D.: ccivax.220 Posted: Tue Nov 13 15:33:05 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Nov-84 04:28:41 EST Distribution: net Organization: CCI Telephony Systems Group, Rochester NY Lines: 174 Index: src/ucb/talk/get_addrs.c 4.2BSD/(2.9BSD?) Description: This is actually a follow up to article <1311@dalcs.UUCP>. The subject was "TCP/IP Communications Problem" and was posted to net.unix-wizards. I wanted to change the subject (to be more informative) and post this reply to a more appropriate news group. Anyways, here goes. When using the software loopback network interface as your primary network, talk can't communicate with foreign hosts. Repeat-by: Make the loopback interface your primary network, then try to talk to a user on another machine. (via ethernet, harvard's itt interface, rick adam's serial line interface, or whatever). Talk will (appear to) hang with the message: "Checking for invitation on caller's machine." Fix: Talk isn't really hung. It is actually waiting for a response from the foreign host. Well, the foreign host will never be able to respond. The problem is that talk sends a "control" packet to the remote talk daemon which contains (among other things) the address of the remote talk's socket (who is on the loopback network). So, the foreign host receives the control packets correctly, but when it tries to respond (by writing to the address supplied in the packet it just received), the response gets swallowed by the loopback driver on the foreign host!! What I did to fix it was to have talk find out the name of the network it will be using, and if the user being "talked to" is on another machine, make sure the network name doesn't start with "loop". Sort of kludgy I know, but the loopback interface is the only one that doesn't allow inter-machine communication, and 4.2 is distributed with "loopback-net" in /etc/networks, so .... To fix talk, apply the changes in this context diff to get_addrs.c, and add the local host name to the alias list for the network you really want talk to use. rcsdiff -c3 -r1.1 get_addrs.c RCS file: RCS/get_addrs.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -c3 -r1.1 get_addrs.c *** /tmp/,RCSt1008987 Tue Nov 13 15:28:38 1984 --- get_addrs.c Tue Nov 13 15:23:06 1984 *************** *** 1,4 ! /* $Header: get_addrs.c,v 1.1 84/04/06 15:16:21 root Rel $ */ #include "talk_ctl.h" --- 1,4 ----- ! /* $Header: get_addrs.c,v 1.3 84/11/13 15:22:12 root Exp $ */ #include "talk_ctl.h" *************** *** 9,15 char *my_machine_name; char *his_machine_name; { ! struct hostent *hp; struct servent *sp; msg.pid = getpid(); --- 9,15 ----- char *my_machine_name; char *his_machine_name; { ! struct hostent *hp, *p; struct servent *sp; struct netent *np; char **cp; *************** *** 11,16 { struct hostent *hp; struct servent *sp; msg.pid = getpid(); --- 11,18 ----- { struct hostent *hp, *p; struct servent *sp; + struct netent *np; + char **cp; msg.pid = getpid(); *************** *** 16,23 /* look up the address of the local host */ ! hp = gethostbyname(my_machine_name); ! if (hp == (struct hostent *) 0) { printf("This machine doesn't exist. Boy, am I confused!\n"); exit(-1); --- 18,39 ----- /* look up the address of the local host */ ! sethostent(1); /* Don't rewind hosts file */ ! again: ! while(p = gethostent()) { ! if (strcmp(p->h_name, my_machine_name) == 0) ! break; ! for(cp = p->h_aliases; *cp != 0; cp++) ! if (strcmp(*cp, my_machine_name) == 0) ! goto found; ! } ! found: ! if (hp && !p) { ! printf("No suitable network for %s to talk to %s on.\n", ! my_machine_name, his_machine_name); ! exit(-1); ! } ! hp = p; if (hp == (struct hostent *) 0) { printf("This machine doesn't exist. Boy, am I confused!\n"); exit(-1); *************** *** 29,34 } bcopy(hp->h_addr, (char *)&my_machine_addr, hp->h_length); /* if he is on the same machine, then simply copy */ --- 45,51 ----- } bcopy(hp->h_addr, (char *)&my_machine_addr, hp->h_length); + np = getnetbyaddr(inet_netof(my_machine_addr), AF_INET); /* if he is on the same machine, then simply copy */ *************** *** 37,42 bcopy((char *)&my_machine_addr, (char *)&his_machine_addr, sizeof(his_machine_name)); } else { /* look up the address of the recipient's machine */ --- 54,69 ----- bcopy((char *)&my_machine_addr, (char *)&his_machine_addr, sizeof(his_machine_name)); } else { + + /* + * Don't try to talk to a remote machine on + * the loopback network. + */ + + #define min(a, b) (a < b ? a : b) + + if (np && !bcmp(np->n_name, "loop", min(strlen(np->name), 4))) + goto again; /* look up the address of the recipient's machine */