Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watcgl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watcgl!dmmartindale From: dmmartindale@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Martindale) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: Teaching UNIX Message-ID: <435@watcgl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Nov-84 12:51:26 EST Article-I.D.: watcgl.435 Posted: Wed Nov 14 12:51:26 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 15-Nov-84 02:21:36 EST References: <88@athena.UUCP> <640@clyde.UUCP> <369@watcgl.UUCP>, <496@amdahl.UUCP> <656@watdcsu.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 13 I DO wish that the department of computing services had taken Amdahl up on its offer and put up UTS for a trial period. If it is unusable because of features that are missing, the users will soon figure that out for themselves. Personally, I consider CMS almost unuseable because of the way unsolicited terminal input is handled. I would have liked to compare CMS to UTS. With respect to vi, does VM/CMS have a good screen editor that runs on ordinary ASCII terminals? It didn't seem to last time I used it. By deciding in advance that UTS was unsuitable, DCS has prevented any possibility of users deciding that they like it. I have heard very negative comments about UTS from people who have used it so I'm willing to believe it may have many problems but, dammit, what's wrong with letting users decide for themselves?