Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site mhuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!mhuxr!mhuxv!mhuxt!js2j From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) Newsgroups: net.women,net.flame Subject: Re: Re: Misogyny Message-ID: <362@mhuxt.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Nov-84 10:08:44 EST Article-I.D.: mhuxt.362 Posted: Wed Nov 14 10:08:44 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 15-Nov-84 03:19:13 EST References: <1851@nsc.UUCP> <1791@sun.uucp> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 34 > = Sunny > Some of you may think this is stretching it, but I believe that if we > continue with our male dominated world which so thoroughly invalidates > the eastern/feminine values in favor of the western/masculine values, > then we can count on the end of civilization as we know it, because the > men are determined to nuke us back into the stone age just to prove that > their weapons are bigger than their competitions is. Yes, some of us do think that this is stretching it. I too am concerned about the arms race, but to blame the whole thing on men in general is going a little far. ( I mean, I never nuked anyone, nor do I want to, even though I'm one of those *AWFUL* men. :-)) > regardless of whether you personally hate or distrust women, why do you think > people in general do so (what a clever way for you to disquise your own > opinion, and blame it on someone else, no?). People in general hate women? I guess you must mean men in general hate women, right? I'm very sorry for you, Sunny, if the men whom you have met have led you to believe this. Yes, women are brutalized and victimized even today, even in our own society, and it is men who do this. But one whole helluvva lot of love is also going on out there, most of it between men and women. To forget about that, and to say that men in general hate women is inaccurate. What motivates the rapists and the wife beaters? I dunno. Maybe these INDIVIDUALS hate women. Maybe they have other motives. If you think that finding out their motives is important, and that this may help solve these problems, I agree with you. But let's not end the search for these motives with the false assertion that men in general hate women. I mean, some of my best friends are women. Jeff Sonntag ihnp4!mhuxl!mhuxt!js2j