Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site we53.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!mgnetp!we53!bmt From: bmt@we53.UUCP ( B. M. Thomas ) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics Subject: Re: Bastille mentality (and moriarty's ?naivete?) Message-ID: <269@we53.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-Nov-84 14:51:27 EST Article-I.D.: we53.269 Posted: Tue Nov 13 14:51:27 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 18-Nov-84 04:50:05 EST References: <3@vax2.fluke.UUCP> <268@we53.UUCP> <13@vax2.fluke.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Technologies - St. Louis Missouri Lines: 17 An apology is due, Jeff, and a public one, if my remark was taken as an attack. It was not meant as one. Neither was it really cynical, and I do agree that the referenced behaviour is barbarous and ugly. However, I was really responding in some anger to an idea that today's social engineers have foisted upon our subconscious minds and which appeared to be behind your initial posting. This idea is that we have somehow come beyond all of that, that mankind is now somehow more noble than at that time, simply because we can espouse wonderful ideas of worldwide peace and brotherhood. We think that these ideas are new, that they have liberated us from the barbarism of the past. Not true. Mankind has never been lacking in lofty ideals, only in the personal character to implement them. Our news has somehow stopped appending my .signature, sorry. Here it is. we53!bmt(Brian M. Thomas @ AT&T Technologies, St. Louis, MO)