Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pucc-h Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!CS-Mordred!Pucc-H:aeq From: aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.flame Subject: Re: Flame: Sargent's theory of homosexuality Message-ID: <1504@pucc-h> Date: Tue, 20-Nov-84 05:11:03 EST Article-I.D.: pucc-h.1504 Posted: Tue Nov 20 05:11:03 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Nov-84 01:05:43 EST References: <283@haddock.UUCP> <1464@pucc-h>, <1132@bbncca.ARPA> Organization: Purdue University Computing Crypt Lines: 43 From Steve Dyer, in response to my article giving my thoughts on homosexuality: > STOP SUPERIMPOSING YOUR OWN NEUROSES ON GAY PEOPLE, OK? Sorry, but I still claim that homosexuality is a form of neurosis, and neurosis is a result of sin -- holding to false beliefs about oneself and one's environment. There are many cases of homosexuals being delivered from homosexuality by the power of God. (I'll probably expand on this idea when I respond to Richard Brower's article.) > It is bad enough that we have to suffer through his ruminations on > childhood, divorce and his own sexual orientation, given that he dismisses > serious counseling as a valid option. But it is outrageous that he should > take these peculiar, private explanations for his neuroses and paint gay > people with the same color. Actually the last half of the first sentence is no longer true.... I am seeing regularly a man who is now officially a minister, but whose previous work was full-time marriage & family counseling; he is thus very helpful in helping me sort out my relationship problems. I used net.singles as a support group because it's easier to trust people at a distance than people I see regularly -- the distant ones can't do much to me, especially since by the time I see their responses, my hurting emotional state has passed. > DON'T TRY TO MAKE STATEMENTS ABOUT WHAT "GAY PEOPLE" ARE LIKE, GIVEN YOUR > ADMITTED LACK OF EXPERTISE IN THE AREA. Perhaps in one way I am being a bit presumptive, since I've never actually fallen into homosexuality full-fledgedly. But I have had more struggles with homosexual feelings than most people I've talked to; so I'm not 100% ignorant. I do wonder why my statements provoke a flame. It has been my experience that heated denials often are a cover for a truth that the denier does not want to accept or admit. Might I suggest that you examine yourself and see if perhaps, at bottom, you really do have some -- shall we say, reservations -- about homosexuality. -- -- Jeff Sargent {decvax|harpo|ihnp4|inuxc|ucbvax}!pur-ee!pucc-h:aeq "I'm not asking for anyone's bleeding charity." "Then do. At once. Ask for the Bleeding Charity."