Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site talcott.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!wjh12!talcott!gjk From: gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg J Kuperberg) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Re: poor starving people Message-ID: <133@talcott.UUCP> Date: Tue, 27-Nov-84 12:20:41 EST Article-I.D.: talcott.133 Posted: Tue Nov 27 12:20:41 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 28-Nov-84 07:53:03 EST References: <642@amd.UUCP> <590@amdahl.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Harvard Lines: 36 From Frank Dibbell: > I don't know if the famine is temporary or not, but starvation is one > of nature's ways of population control: if humans will not maintain > their numbers at a level sustainable by the land, nature will do it > for them. > > Unfortunately, not everyone would consent to voluntary sterilization > in order to receive food, and there are too many ``bleeding heart'' > liberal organizations, and institutions like the Catholic Church, > who under the guise of ``humanity'' would want to feed these people > anyway. > > If we continue to play God, continuing to tamper with nature, and are > somehow able to keep all these people alive, what will we do for the > next famine? And the one after that? Ultimately it will strain even > our own country's ability to feed itself, resulting in a massive > global famine. Then what? > > No one ever said that life would be fair. This is really ridiculous. Ever since the invention of the plow we have been "playing God." The whole point of human civilization is to alter nature. U.S. aid is precisely an attempt to "maintain our numbers at a level sustainable by the land," and nature doing it for us is exactly what we're trying to avoid. Furthermore, the plight of Ethiopia is hardly due to nature alone. Japan is far more crowded, and yet so much better off. It would also help if farmers in Ethiopia used rotational grazing. It would also help if the Cubans left. ----- Greg Kuperberg harvard!talcott!gjk "I believe that Ronald Reagan can make this country what it once was---an arctic wasteland, covered with ice." -Steve Martin