Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dmcnh.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!ittvax!sii!dmcnh!gts From: gts@dmcnh.UUCP Newsgroups: net.math,net.followup,net.crypt Subject: Distinguishing a Message from Random Data - Statistical approach Message-ID: <166@dmcnh.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Nov-84 15:45:26 EST Article-I.D.: dmcnh.166 Posted: Fri Nov 16 15:45:26 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 18-Nov-84 03:19:34 EST Distribution: net Organization: Datamedia Corp, Nashua, NH Lines: 36 Xref: genrad net.math:1645 net.followup:4347 net.crypt:240 +[ The mailer deamon wouldn't eat this, so I'm posting it: ]+ I mentioned that Beale's cipher #3 had been determined to contain a message, but that it hasn't been cracked. I got this letter, but could not respond via mail: > Subject: Re: Chuq's comments about ESP > What are the statistical methods for determining the existence of > a message? (I have not studied cryptography very much) > [tectronix!sharkp!brian(?)] I must admit that I only know of the existence of such methods. For more information there is an excellent Journal you might try, called _Cryptologia_ (it comes out quarterly): Dr. Brian Winkel Editor Cryptologia Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology 5500 Wabash Ave. Terre Haute, IN 47803 Dr. Winkel, before becoming a mathematics professor at Rose-Hulman, worked for the National Security Agency (NSA) which is in possesion of more comp- uter power than any single installation in the free world. They sit all day long intercepting messages and trying to decode them (usually success- fully). In fact, just mentioning NSA in this letter will probably bring it to the attention of someone besides just you and me, if you catch my drift. Anyway, any specific questions about Cryptology could also be addressed to Winkle personally, although I'm not sure what result you may get. -From the padded terminal of ><..!decvax!ittvax!sii!dmcnh!gts Disclaimer: This posting is the sole responsibility of myself and does not reflect the policies of Datamedia Corporation.