Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihnet.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihnet!eklhad From: eklhad@ihnet.UUCP (K. A. Dahlke) Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re: Strange Shapes Message-ID: <177@ihnet.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Nov-84 10:00:20 EST Article-I.D.: ihnet.177 Posted: Sun Nov 25 10:00:20 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 26-Nov-84 07:53:56 EST References: <176@ihnet.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 32 Thanks for the many responses to "strange shapes". If you were not familiar with infinite-area finite-volume shapes, here is one example. Take the graph y = 1/x and rotate it around the x axis. Let x run from 1 to infinity, and close the shape at x = 1 with a unit disc. This hyperbola of revolution works because volume drops as the cube of R, and surface area drops as the square of R. The difference is just enough to produce a finite volume and an infinite surface area. Try the integrals yourself. One interesting response stated the shapes need not be unbounded. A snowflake (fractle) kind of shape might work. I guess I never said the shapes had to be smooth or continuous. I am a little skeptical, and very interested. Can anyone give an analytic definition for a bounded shape with these properties. As for the converse, I was a bit embarrassed by the appropriate response "all points whose distance from the origin >= 1" This shape indeed has infinite volume and finite surface area, but it wasn't quite what I had in mind. I better learn to phrase questions unambiguously. I wanted the infinite volume to remain inside the shape. Now define inside (aargggg). Anyways, I didn't think much about this part, too busy eating. I guess one could flatten non-convex portions, decreasing area and increasing volume. The shape must then be convex, and therefore bounded or infinite, and... (wave wave wave, it's intuitively obvious, won't bore you with details). -- Karl Dahlke ihnp4!ihnet!eklhad