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Subject: Re: "Gay Rights"
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Date: Wed, 14-Nov-84 19:53:00 EST
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Posted: Wed Nov 14 19:53:00 1984
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Steve Dyer says:
> One wonders what Greenberg would have done if the same client had
> called regarding a contract programmer who was black.  Yep, $9000
> is a *lot* of money, and I REALLY NEED a new {_______}.  Hey, you
> can't blame me out there, can you?  What would you do, anyway?
> 
> Appealing to the lowest common denominator is one of the oldest
> foibles, but that doesn't make it honorable.

There is no need to wonder what I'd do:  I thought I'd made that obvious.
The question is: What would YOU do, Steve?  If a client calls me up and
says I don't want your programmer here because he/she/it is a {______},
I'll have to go with the client.  They bought that right, whether it is
moral or not.  I have only one choice: go with the client and screw the
he/she/it or fight the client, lose, and neither the he/she/it or I profit.
I never said it was honorable, just pragmatic.

Lofty ideals are wonderful.  But, as I stated, they do not pay the rent.

I've lost too many "good" jobs (because I'm Jewish) not to hate this kind of
discrimination. But doesn't the client have the right to say "Not in my
house you don't!!"???

But lets get away from the theory and get into the dirt: Steve Dyer, what
would you do???

And lets hear the rationale behind it.  And then tell us where you would
replace those expected, possible already spent, lost funds due to YOUR high
ideals (or am I presupposing that you'll do the "noble" thing, and tell
the client something meaningful and relevant?).

I'm waiting Steve......


Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----