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Subject: Re: Other Ayn Rand Devotee's
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Date: Wed, 21-Nov-84 16:21:00 EST
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Fingerhut@cornell -->
? Subject: "Gay Rights" -- let them go to hell, it's not (yet) my problem
? Ross M. Greenberg says:
? >                              Simply because he is gay I should protect his
? >rights at my own cost??  Give me a break.......
? quotes Ayn Rand,
? >" I swear by my life, and by my love for it, that I shall not live my
? >  life for the sake of any other man, nor ask any other man to live his
? >   life for my sake "  - John Galt
? 
? 
? ... this selfish and monstrous
? attitude ...  was that of the Gentiles towards the Jews (and other 
? minorities) before and during WWII... ??

where he then goes on a long diatribe comparing my attitude of replacing
a gay programmer with someone else with the extermination of Jews and others
by the Third Reich...

? Do the names of Cambodia, Uganda and
? Ethiopia ring a bell, along with those of Maidanek and Treblinka?  Both
? should, if you call yourself a jew and a man.

Yep...they do ring a bell. And I will call myself a Jew and a man.  Enough
to say that the murder and killing of persons of any type for any
reason is wrong.  Now you are trying to get me to equate the horrors of
WWII with choosing not to hire a gay person?? Perhaps I'm too dumb to
see the point?? Oh...you mean discrimination...ok, if the political
atmosphere in this country turns to incarceration or murder of those
whose sexual preference may not be the norm, I'll be there to try to
prevent it.  That is my duty as a human being, regardless of religion or
sex.

? 	Ayn Rand was good for kids in the paradise of the rich and peaceful.
? This is not the world most of us live in, and it's not of our choice.

I dunno...try reading it again....most philosphy is not for real world
situations...And the world that is not of your choice is the world that
you have created.  If you don't like it, then change it.  Don't just
lecture someone about their responsibilities.  What have you done
to change this world you so dispise??

Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----