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From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Cheshire Chuqui)
Newsgroups: net.news
Subject: Re: list of groups in mod.newslists
Message-ID: <1900@nsc.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 27-Nov-84 00:43:29 EST
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Posted: Tue Nov 27 00:43:29 1984
Date-Received: Wed, 28-Nov-84 01:51:46 EST
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Reply-To: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Cheshire Chuqui)
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>    (For the record:  I don't get paid to maintain the lists or help
>    maintain the Usenet.  I don't get any particular jollies out of it
>    either.  I do it as a favor to people on the net.  I don't have the
>    time or patience to deal with the abuse from "busy programmers" who
>    think that because people like Chuq and Mark and Rick and I are
>    visible, that it means we're fair game for whatever shit they want
>    to give us.
>    It's so easy for some people to complain, especially when they're
>    not offering solutions.  Vegans have feelings too, ya know.)

It makes sense to point out that NONE of us get paid to do any of this, and
we ALL see, to get a fair amount of regular hate mail, whether or not we
deserve it (and sometimes, being human, or quasi-human, we do). If you
don't like what we are doing, tell us how to do it better and we'll listen.
At least TRY to tell us how to do it better. Flaming may make YOU feel
better, but please remember that there is someone at the other end of that
flame that may end up feeling worse because of it. Flame often enough and
you'll find that people stop listening to you completely, and then that one
time you DO have an idea nobody will hear it (and you'll flame about that
as well). Don't yell at us, help us. We aren't a clique, or a frat, or a
council, or a group of power hungry dictators. We're a group of people who
are trying to keep this thing running so that the other 99.9999999% of the
users don't need to think about why Usenet exists and runs as smoothly as
it does. Feel free to join the group-- we can always use more people
willing to take on some of the load. All you need to do is let us know.

If you think Usenet is screwed up with us running it, let me ask you a
couple of questions. Please try to answer them (to yourself) honestly:

	If you were running Usenet instead of us, would it be better off? 
	If so, why, and why aren't you doing it?

	If we weren't here, where would Usenet be?

chuq
-- 
From the center of a Plaid pentagram:		Chuq Von Rospach
{cbosgd,decwrl,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!chuqui  nsc!chuqui@decwrl.ARPA

  ~But you know, monsieur, that as long as she wears the claw of the dragon
  upon her breast you can do nothing-- her soul belongs to me!~