Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC830713); site klipper.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep From: biep@klipper.UUCP (J. A. "Biep" Durieux) Newsgroups: net.abortion,net.politics,net.religion,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Abortion and Capital Punishment Message-ID: <359@klipper.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-Nov-84 04:18:24 EST Article-I.D.: klipper.359 Posted: Tue Nov 13 04:18:24 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 15-Nov-84 01:17:49 EST References: <1782@burdvax.UUCP> <779@ariel.UUCP> Reply-To: biep@klipper.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Organization: VU Informatica, Amsterdam Lines: 23 Summary: [] Human fetuses are no humans, and may be aborted. Since birth does not miraculously brew "humans", the only logical limit is when it becomes clear that a child is reasonable. So I think parents should have the right to "kill" their children till something like the age of 12. In fact in Japan this is already an accepted point of view. Why would it suddenly be murder t " kill" a baby that two days ago still was a "fetus" and so possible subject to abortion? The natural limit would be this: At the moment a child would be able to live after being rejected by its parents, it could. Being removed from a womb is such a form of rejection. (In fact, this is also a [Ll]ibertarian idea: nobody has the duty to care for someone else, and children are held responsible for themselves) -- Biep. {seismo|decvax|philabs}!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep I utterly disagree with everything you are saying, but I am prepared to fight myself to death for your right to say it. --Voltaire