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From: biep@klipper.UUCP (J. A. "Biep" Durieux)
Newsgroups: net.abortion,net.politics,net.religion,net.philosophy
Subject: Re: Abortion and Capital Punishment
Message-ID: <365@klipper.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 19-Nov-84 06:53:52 EST
Article-I.D.: klipper.365
Posted: Mon Nov 19 06:53:52 1984
Date-Received: Thu, 22-Nov-84 06:32:37 EST
References: <1782@burdvax.UUCP> <779@ariel.UUCP> <359@klipper.UUCP> <315@qantel.UUCP>
Reply-To: biep@klipper.UUCP
Organization: VU Informatica, Amsterdam
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Summary: 

In article <315@qantel.UUCP> ken@qantel.UUCP (Ken Nichols@ex6193) writes:
>In article <359@klipper.UUCP> biep@klipper.UUCP (Biep) writes:
>>[]
>>	Human fetuses are no humans, and may be aborted. Since birth does
>>	not miraculously brew "humans", the only logical limit is when
>>	it becomes clear that a child is reasonable. So I think parents
>>	should have the right to "kill" their children till something
>>	like the age of 12. In fact in Japan this is already an accepted
>>	point of view. Why would it suddenly be murder t " kill" a baby
>>	that two days ago still was a "fetus" and so possible subject to
>>	abortion? The natural limit would be this: At the moment a child
>>	would be able to live after being rejected by its parents, it
>>	could. Being removed from a womb is such a form of rejection.
>>	(In fact, this is also a [Ll]ibertarian idea: nobody has the duty
>>	to care for someone else, and children are held responsible for
>>	themselves)
>>		
>>-- 
>>
>>							  Biep.
>>	{seismo|decvax|philabs}!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep
>
>Is this supposed to be a sick joke or what?  Either this is an example of how
>ridiculous abortion is or this man wishes to be flamed to death.
> 
>--
>"...holding forth the                           Ken Nichols
> word of life..." Phil. 2:16                    ...!ucbvax!dual!qantel!ken
>------------------

[]
	No, it's no sick joke. I am against abortion myself, but reading
	some of the articles on the net, I wondered whether there still
	were any ethics left. So I put this article on the net, just to
	see how people would react. Well, you were the only one to attack
	the attitude pronounced. In fact, except for the two guys who al-
	ways correct my English, you were the only one at all to react.
	Either this world is completely rotten, or all net.philosophy 
	readers understood this couldn't be real. 
	I *do* hope the latter, but...

	So please listen, everybody: THE ABOVE ARTICLE DOES *NOT*
	REPRESENT MY OPINIONS ON THE SUBJECT AT ALL !!

	I guess the sick joke is that (besides you) nobody thought it
	worth replying.
-- 

							  Biep.
	{seismo|decvax|philabs}!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep

I utterly disagree with everything you are saying, but I am
prepared to fight myself to death for your right to say it.
							--Voltaire