Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ccice2.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!ritcv!ccice5!ccice2!cjk From: cjk@ccice2.UUCP (Kreilick) Newsgroups: net.abortion,net.politics,net.religion,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Abortion and Capital Punishment Message-ID: <508@ccice2.UUCP> Date: Tue, 20-Nov-84 17:18:34 EST Article-I.D.: ccice2.508 Posted: Tue Nov 20 17:18:34 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 22-Nov-84 07:18:33 EST References: <1782@burdvax.UUCP> <779@ariel.UUCP> <359@klipper.UUCP> <315@qantel.UUCP> Organization: CCI Central Engineering, Rochester, NY Lines: 54 > In article <359@klipper.UUCP> biep@klipper.UUCP (Biep) writes: > >[] > > Human fetuses are no humans, and may be aborted. Since birth does > > not miraculously brew "humans", the only logical limit is when > > it becomes clear that a child is reasonable. So I think parents > > should have the right to "kill" their children till something > > like the age of 12. In fact in Japan this is already an accepted > > point of view. Why would it suddenly be murder t " kill" a baby > > that two days ago still was a "fetus" and so possible subject to > > abortion? The natural limit would be this: At the moment a child > > would be able to live after being rejected by its parents, it > > could. Being removed from a womb is such a form of rejection. > > (In fact, this is also a [Ll]ibertarian idea: nobody has the duty > > to care for someone else, and children are held responsible for > > themselves) > > > >-- > > > > Biep. > > {seismo|decvax|philabs}!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep > > Is this supposed to be a sick joke or what? Either this is an example of how > ridiculous abortion is or this man wishes to be flamed to death. > > I have never heard such a evil thing on this network before. I can't believe > people really think like this. I hope no one else out there has this demented Perhaps what you meant to say is that you can't believe that others think before spewing drivel to the net. > view of children, whether you are pro-abortion or not. Does this man propose > that we set ourselves up higher than any other authority and kill children > because they can't take care of themselves? I just can't believe anyone could > say such a thing! > > Since you know that I'm very conservative, you must have guessed I am anti- > abortion. I believe that since all life comes from God, and that a fetus is > alive, you are killing a creation of God when you have an abortion done. Only > God has the right to take away any life that He gave. > > I suppose that as time goes on, more and more liberals will view children as > a burden and wish to get rid of them at older and older ages. > > "Oh my, he cries to much. Let's kill him and get another." Is this what I > will hear parents saying in the future? How disgusting! > > This man says removing a child from the womb is a form of rejection. I say > it is a form of murder, and the worst kind. > -- > "...holding forth the Ken Nichols > word of life..." Phil. 2:16 ...!ucbvax!dual!qantel!ken > ------------------ *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***