Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihldt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihldt!stewart From: stewart@ihldt.UUCP (R. J. Stewart) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Comments on Libertarianism Message-ID: <2616@ihldt.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-Nov-84 16:59:43 EST Article-I.D.: ihldt.2616 Posted: Wed Nov 21 16:59:43 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Nov-84 03:27:29 EST References: <47@cbsck.UUCP> <2773@ucbcad.UUCP> <2597@ihldt.UUCP> <272@pyuxd.UUCP>, <110@talcott.UUCP> <9926@watmath.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 23 > I seem to remember from John Stuart Mill's "On Liberty" that he stated > that laws for the common good are legitimate, but laws regulating individual > welfare are not. Laws are supposed to prevent you from hurting me, not you > from hurting you. Many people would agree with this, if you limit the discussion to laws that forbid hurting. The laws in question, however, are those that mandate benefiting someone else. I believe that the libertarians are correct to claim that you can't have freedom without the right to control your property. I once saw it put quite well (though I can't remember the author): "Any person who produces something while someone else disposes of it is a slave." So, in a real sense, I spend a significant fraction of my time doing forced labor for my neighbors, since I have no children but must pay hefty property taxes, most of which is for the school district. I have no way of opting out of the system, since the people with children out-vote me, and have no qualms about taking my money. Bob Stewart ihldt!stewart