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Subject: Sotware vs. "meat"
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Date: Fri, 23-Nov-84 16:14:00 EST
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/***** ea:net.politics / wucs!esk /  9:16 pm  Nov 20, 1984 */
> Remember, you don't HAVE a body, you ARE a body.
>	Russ Herman	{allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!aesat!rwh

> You may be a body, but I *have* one. I hope to be uploaded to something
> more durable in the future --
> 	"Protect your software at all costs; the rest is meat."
>	<mike	( mwm@ea.UUCP )

Russ was right.  Software without "meat" is worth nothing.

> -- (and off we go into another net.philosophy debate.)

Ready when you are!

				--The untiring iconoclast,
				Paul V Torek, ihnp4!wucs!wucec1!pvt1047
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Ok, here we go:

Of course software without "meat" is worthless. But "meat" without software
has only nutritional value; which makes it worthless as far as this
discussion goes.

Now, read the last line from me carefully: "I hope to be uploaded to
*something* ... ." Key word: "something." I claim that "I" can function on
other hardware, be it meat, silicon, plasma, or whatever. [I also claim I
can *prove* that that can happen, barring dualism!] Therefore, I can change
"bodies" - so I am not a body, any more than I am a house. Both are things
that "I" temporarily make use of. Therefore, I "have" a body, in the same
manner that I "have" a house.


	<mike