Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site flairvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!decwrl!flairvax!baba From: baba@flairvax.UUCP (Baba ROM DOS) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Comments on Libertarianism Message-ID: <828@flairvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 26-Nov-84 03:36:10 EST Article-I.D.: flairvax.828 Posted: Mon Nov 26 03:36:10 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 28-Nov-84 02:37:54 EST References: <47@cbsck.UUCP> <2773@ucbcad.UUCP> <2597@ihldt.UUCP> <272@pyuxd.UUCP>, <375@ptsfa.UUCP> Organization: Fairchild AI Lab, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 25 Xref: sdcsvax net.politics:5537 net.philosophy:1171 > A key point, however, is that individuals interact, not with society >as a whole, but with other individuals. They may interact with many >large numbers of others, even with enormous organized groups- but they >never interact with the whole. If I incur a debt to every other person >alive, one may rightfully say that I owe everyone something, but not >that I owe SOCIETY anything... > > ...People do not interact with the aggregate that forms society. > How then can they owe it a debt? Even more importantly, if they do > owe it a debt, how can government claim payment of that debt in > the name of the whole? > J. Bashinski > ...ucbvax!bashinsk%ucbcory Wow! What a neat trick! Let me try a different application. PG&E has had the audacity to present me with a bill for my utilities last month. Now, it may be true that I owe a debt to *some* PG&E employees, those who actually had a hand in delivering gas and electricity to me, and to *some* PG&E shareholders, those who actually paid for the resources that were used on my behalf, but I owe *nothing* to the aggregate of PG&E! Even more importantly, if I *do* owe it a debt, how can the collections department claim payment of that debt in the name of the whole? This is going to save me hundreds of dollars a year! Thanks, Baba