Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site mhuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!mhuxt!js2j From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Re: why FTL is illegal, in small words Message-ID: <374@mhuxt.UUCP> Date: Mon, 26-Nov-84 09:49:55 EST Article-I.D.: mhuxt.374 Posted: Mon Nov 26 09:49:55 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Nov-84 04:01:34 EST References: <683@gloria.UUCP> <785@ariel.UUCP> <119@talcott.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 34 On why FTL implies time travel: > Now supposing I take off for Alpha Centauri and arrive there in less than > the amount of time that it takes light to get from here to Alpha Centauri. > Then for some moving observer, I arrived before I left! Thus I have the > power to travel backwards in time. > > This causes a whole slew of problems. If I can travel backwards in time, I > could, for example, go back and kill my grandfather before my father was > conceived. I would have to then cease to exist (as would my father). > But if I never existed, who killed my grandfather? I still don't understand! Some moving observer, who obviously doesn't understand relativity thinks that you arrived there before you left, and you believe him? Assuming for the sake of arguement that you had some method of traveling (let's simplify things) any distance in zero time. Please explain how this could be used to go back in time. I don't want to hear about any observer who thinks that you did. Many thanks for all who helped to explain why c is a speed limit, but I still don't understand why violation of this speed limit implied time travel. Jeff Sonntag ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j p.s. What do you mean? You're my grandson from the future come here to test a theory? Wait a minute.... what if I just promise not to have children? Oh, you have to be sure. Wait! Put down that gun! I'm too young to ^#~................. USERID JS2J TIMED OUT AT 09:48:37 MESSAGE TERMINATED -- MAILER