Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.17 $; site uiucdcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!renner From: renner@uiucdcs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: U.S. exports torture tools Message-ID: <29200164@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Sun, 11-Nov-84 16:52:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.29200164 Posted: Sun Nov 11 16:52:00 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Nov-84 03:31:50 EST References: <3081@mit-eddi.UUCP> Lines: 22 Nf-ID: #R:mit-eddi:-308100:uiucdcs:29200164:000:1111 Nf-From: uiucdcs!renner Nov 11 15:52:00 1984 > NEW YORK (Reuter) -- The Commerce Department has authorized the > export of what it calls ``specially designed implements of torture'' > to Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and members of the North Atlantic > Treaty Organization, Newsweek Magazine said yesterday. > The magazine said that when a Commerce Department spokesman was > asked about the ``torture'' instruments, he said they included > ``thumbscrews and cattle prods -- just routine items for the police.'' > larry kolodney (lkk@mit-eddie) This article raises all sorts of interesting questions, none of which have any plausible answers. There's no special technology involved here -- I could probably assemble a working set of thumbscrews with a 10-minute trip to the hardware store. So, assuming that these countries want to use thumbscrews, why get them from the US? That (apparently) requires an export permit, and results in embarrassing Reuters news articles. Why not just have Sgt. Krank build a set in the basement? Sorry, but the whole thing sounds like disinformation to me. Scott Renner {pur-ee,ihnp4}!uiucdcs!renner