Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site loral.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcc6!loral!simard From: simard@loral.UUCP (Ray Simard) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Catholic Pastoral Letter Message-ID: <669@loral.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Nov-84 17:51:40 EST Article-I.D.: loral.669 Posted: Mon Nov 19 17:51:40 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Nov-84 01:27:21 EST References: <86@cadre.UUCP> Reply-To: simard@loral.UUCP (Ray Simard) Distribution: net.religion Organization: Loral Instrumentation, San Diego, CA Lines: 44 Summary: [This meeting of the USENET debating society will come to disorder] What stands out in the Catholic bishops' pastoral letter is something shared by many advocates of expanding the welfare state: an inability, or perhaps unwillingness, to distinguish _e_n_d_s from _m_e_a_n_s. Deploring and cal- ling for an end to poverty and its effects are all well and good, and neces- sary to compassionate citizens of this world. But specifying means to that end removes the bishops from the role of moral authority and places them in the role of economist. And, as a Canadian paper commented, (paraphrasing) "If they behave as economists, they will be judged as economists". As a sector whose sustenance comes from the voluntary donations of those who prosper in the system they condemn, the bishops are especially unqualified by personal experience to advocate specific economic policy. While I always support the right of citizens, whether bishops or not, to speak freely when moved, the bishops are not speaking as citizens; they are speaking as bishops of the Catholic Church - and in that capacity, they are absolutely out of their element of knowledge and expertise, and out of line. It would seem that, before preparing a document with such potential for influence, they would gather a spectrum of thought and give some considera- tion for the track record of the methods they advocate that have already been enacted for years. That such methods are provable failures is no secret, but they have chosen to close their eyes to such evidence and behave as if liberal doctrine were as sacred and above question as Church doctrine. Charity as embraced in Christian faith (as well as much of the non-Christian world) is wholesome, enriching and powerful. But most of that power comes from the personal choice in giving - a choice wholly absent in government transfer programs. If the bishops wish to maintain their credibility as caretakers of Catholic moral philosophy, they had better separate noble moral goals from sanctimonious dicta of methods when they speak under the aegis of the Church. -- [ I am not a stranger, but a friend you haven't met yet ] Ray Simard Loral Instrumentation, San Diego {ucbvax, ittvax!dcdwest}!sdcsvax!sdcc6!loral!simard ...Though we may sometimes disagree, You are still a friend to me!