Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Expertise, Nuclear War, and Casualties Message-ID: <355@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 20-Nov-84 08:38:13 EST Article-I.D.: whuxl.355 Posted: Tue Nov 20 08:38:13 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Nov-84 01:38:50 EST References: <2092@randvax.UUCP> <1797@burdvax.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs Lines: 46 > to be Soviets-29,000; US-21,000 with the Soviets adding to their number > while our count has remainded more or less the same over the past four > years. > > Kopel: "Are we building or adding?" > > Ferraro: "I say we're building." > > The implication being that while we are replacing older weapons > with new and maintaining our count at level the Soviets are adding new > warheads and increasing their overall total. So if you're playing the > numbers game the Soviets are ahead in the warhead count. > > -- > Tom Albrecht Burroughs Corp. > ...{presby|psuvax|sdcrdcf}!burdvax!bnapl It is no more true that we are reducing or stabilizing the number of our nuclear warheads now, anymore than it was true that we "unilaterally disarmed" during the 70's. I have previously pointed out that despite Reagan's repeated misstatements that the US "unilaterally disarmed" during the 70's in fact the US increased its strategic warheads from 4000 to 10000. In fact the Reagan arms buildup IS leading to an increase in US nuclear warheads. The US is adding 2 new warheads every day. Scientific American in Nov. 1982 had a very informative article examining Reagan's START proposal--this article pointed out that even had Reagan's START proposal been accepted that DESPITE reductions in certain weapon systems it would lead to an overall increase of 1500 nuclear warheads. I do not have the article available but I believe that it showed an increase of 5000 warheads by the US without any arms control. It is unfortunate that Ms. Ferraro is wrong on the overall level of nuclear warheads held by both sides. All official estimates I have ever seen show the US ahead in overall nuclear warheads including the Scientific American article in Nov. 1982. This increase in our warheads is pivotal because next year the deployment of an additional Trident submarine *without* a corresponding decrease in other weapons systems will be a direct violation of SALT II. If this deployment were not an increase over limits on certain categories of warhead levels it would not be a violation of SALT II. The Soviets have dismantled old weapons systems when modernizing their forces in order to stay under their 818 ICBM limit under SALT II. the unfortunate fact is that both sides are engaged in an allout arms race ................. tim sevener whuxl!orb