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From: gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg J Kuperberg)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Re: US weapons in Europe
Message-ID: <125@talcott.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 25-Nov-84 19:28:02 EST
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Posted: Sun Nov 25 19:28:02 1984
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> In article <116@talcott.UUCP> gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg J Kuperberg) writes:
> 
> > I stand corrected: the majority of Europeans are indeed very concerned about
> > SS-20's. It happens to be the case, however, that those who choose to ignore
> > the existence of the SS-20's are more likely to be political loud-mouths.
> > Some of there so-called pacifists actually do not know that their own
> > governments actually *want* U.S. military support. Don't you remember who
> > originally drafted the plan to put Pershing II's and cruise missiles in
> > Europe? (Well, Thatcher, Schmidt, and Giscard all had a big part in it...)
> 
> Just because European governments want US arms doesn't mean European people
> want them, as is well demonstrated in Holland among others, where the great
> majority of people don't want the wretched things. And it doesn't mean
> either that we won't complain about the governments wanting them!
> So there. Loud mouth yourself.
> 
> Steven Pemberton, so-called pacifist.

And there you're simply wrong.  The Steven Pembertons are indeed a 
minority in most (but not all!) Western European countries (source: Time
Mag.).  These countries are democracies, no?

And liberals are loud-mouths.  Here at Harvard, for example, the students
are two to one against Reagan, while the political rallies were about ten to
zero against Reagan.