Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucsfcgl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!ucbvax!ucsfcgl!arnold From: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%UCB) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Bickford's History Message-ID: <387@ucsfcgl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-Nov-84 14:17:34 EST Article-I.D.: ucsfcgl.387 Posted: Tue Nov 13 14:17:34 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 15-Nov-84 02:31:28 EST References: <1696@ucf-cs.UUCP> <1534@qubix.UUCP> Reply-To: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab Lines: 31 Summary: In article <1534@qubix.UUCP> lab@qubix.UUCP (Q-Bick) writes: >. Regarding Jewish men >Y publishing the N'tzarim Writings (NOT a New Testament), why should they? >I They are not interested in this subject... YOU are! Why don't you take a >R more scholarly and less tunnel-vision approach and publish it? As far as >I obscurity (and vagueness) goes, that seems to be in the mind of the >. beholder. > >Counterfeits are known by the genuine. YOU have claimed that what I have >is a "COUNTERFEIT". Therefore YOU produce the "GENUINE" so that we may >all compare. It is useless, yes even hiding, to say "That is wrong" >without saying "This is right." >-- > The Ice Floe of Larry Bickford > {amd,decwrl,sun,idi,ittvax}!qubix!lab > >You can't settle the issue until you've settled how to settle the issue. Um, not really. For example, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a counterfeit, not because there is a REAL one but because they were written by the Czar's secret police as a justification for anti-semetic actions. It is counterfeit because it is not real (or more precisely it pretends to be something which it is not), not because it is an imitation of an actual real thing. THIS is one issue which we can settle how to settle. Try a dictionary. You will find that countefeit can mean (and here I quote from Webster's New Collegiate, 1977) "[2] counterfeit, adj: 1: ... b: marked by false pretense : SHAM, PRETENDED". Ken Arnold