Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mcnc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!mcnc!bch From: bch@mcnc.UUCP (Byron Howes) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Wingate - Firing blanks again Message-ID: <2372@mcnc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 15-Nov-84 22:48:38 EST Article-I.D.: mcnc.2372 Posted: Thu Nov 15 22:48:38 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Nov-84 03:21:01 EST References: <2351@mcnc.UUCP> Reply-To: bch@mcnc.UUCP (Byron Howes) Organization: North Carolina Educational Computing Service Lines: 33 Summary: In article tim@cmu-cs-k.ARPA (Tim Maroney) writes: >One point on which I completely support Yiri, though, is this crap about >"You Jews are being so paranoid about Christian anti-semitism." That's like >telling a black he's paranoid for disliking the Confederate flag. Jews have >every reason to be paranoid about Christian anti-semitism; there is a long >history of Catholic and Protestant (and minor Christian sect such as the >Jehovah's Witnesses) persecution of Jews. Nor is it long stale history -- >it has been a strong force for repression in this century. I don't disagree with Yiri at all on this point. I witness Brunson's patronizing attitude and the Rev. Rob's attempts at prostylization in net.religion.jewish and am somewhat appalled. There have been some rather veiled references to "christ-killers" in this newsgroup that are TOTALLY UNCIVILIZED by some of our Capital C Christian friends. We've both heard the reverend Jimmy Swaggart deliver unto us his opinion of Jews. I also agree with Yiri that some of us small c christians need to speak up against anti-semitism whether overt or veiled. What I do disagree with is that christianity is, by definition, antisemitic. While there exist christian sects with antisemitism as dogma, most of the historical persecution of the Jews has come from the secular mileu which surrounds christianity. This may be a fine point, certainly moot in the face of the real effects of persecution, but it is an important point when discussing the direction the main body of christian thought has taken in evolving from its roots. (Christianity? Evolve? Oh, I'm gonna hear from Bickford on that one...) -- Byron C. Howes ...!{decvax,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!bch