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From: jnelson@trwrba.UUCP (John T. Nelson)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: More replies to Ken (and general comments)
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Date: Fri, 16-Nov-84 18:10:21 EST
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Posted: Fri Nov 16 18:10:21 1984
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> > Bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus. Off the scale on the bogus
> > meter. If you are sitting on a railroad track and a train comes
> > along, is there nothing you can do to save yourself, or do you step
> > OFF of the track? Why should God what to save you if you don't care
> > enough about yourself to do something about it yourself?
> 
> This is a good point.  I would even guess that Ken would agree with
> it, as far as it goes.  Ken's sentence would be more complete if it
> said "there is nothing that a man can do to save himself *by himself*."
>
> Paul DuBois

No, this is also incorrect since if man *were* by himself (that is, without
God) then there would be nothing he would need saving *from*.  There would
be no train to run him down (the train being a metaphor for hell) since
sccording to Ken it is God who is providing the damnation.


					- John