Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Why is there evil? Message-ID: <278@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Nov-84 13:15:13 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxd.278 Posted: Fri Nov 16 13:15:13 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Nov-84 02:42:32 EST References: <128@ihdev.UUCP> <1096@trwrba.UUCP> <1001@umcp-cs.UUCP> <352@gitpyr.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 41 A simple question deserves a simple answer. There is evil because there are other people in the world doing things that might harm us. A hurricane demolishing an entire village is a natural phenomenon, and is therefore not good or evil. The same applies to epidemics and other natural disasters/catastrophes. A person/persons taking advantage of a catastrophe by exploiting the victims (e.g., selling them needed supplies at overinflated prices) might be considered evil. But, then again, if he's the only one making supplies available, and he is taken away/killed/stopped by someone who feels that he is evil, some might consider his being killed/ stopped/whatever to be an evil act. This is because evil is defined as whatever does us harm. The invading armies attacking a city might be considered evil to the city's inhabitants. But the attackers may be attacking because they blame (maybe unjustly) the city they are now attacking for an attack made against THEIR city. Who is evil? Everyone. Because who is evil depends on your perspective. A society may set up rules that describe things that are "evil" not to particular individuals, but rather to the society as a whole. (e.g., treason) To keep a society stable, rules may be defined that make any number of things "evil" or wrong. (e.g., rules on murder, adultery, theft, etc. may apply here) Religion claims that there is something beyond these notions of subjective good and evil, promoting the notion of an objective or universal set of good-evil rules. Yet clearly there can be no such thing. In the "twin cities" example above, who was good and who was evil? Is city 2 evil because they are attacking? Is city 1 evil because city 2 assumes that they committing an "evil" act? Is city 2 good because they justify their attack by saying that a deity has told them that it is good to attack them? (or because they invoke an "eye-for-an-eye" law?) This is a prime example of wishful thinking in religion. It would be nice for there to be absolute good and evil, but given that there are innumerable people with innumerable perspectives on what is good and evil to them, can there be a universal version of the dichotomy that applies to everything the same way (or would you just like it to be that way)? -- "Come with me now to that secret place where the eyes of man have never set foot." Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr