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From: rjb@akgua.UUCP (R.J. Brown [Bob])
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Subject: Re: Brown, Luke, and Esan
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Date: Fri, 16-Nov-84 16:46:07 EST
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Posted: Fri Nov 16 16:46:07 1984
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Mr Esan comments on a fragment of my submission:

[BB]
> To paraphrase that good old Hellenist Jewish Doctor (Luke) 
> "The measure you give is the measure you get back."

[DE]
Just for the record, I grew up in a Hebrew Day School under a poster
that said in Hebrew, "in the measure that you measure others, they measure
you," (bimidah she-atah moded modedim otkhah).  This is from Proverbs (mishleh).Luke may have said that and many other things, but he was paraphrasing
Solomon.

BTW, Rev. Brown, keep on pouring your Christian thought into the Jewish net.
The more you try to explain your religion, the more I can appreciate the
morning blessing of "shelo asani goy", blessing G-d that I was not created a
non-Jew.

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["Rev" Brown replies]

Touche' Mr Esan.  I know much of the teaching of Jesus (who Luke was
recording (second hand)) comes from the Hebrew Scriptures.  

Chain reference notes in the text refer me to citations in Isaiah,
Jeremiah, and Psalms from Luke 6:38 but no reference to Proverbs.
Could you please cite your reference ?

Also Touchy Mr Esan.  You and Mr BenDavid give new meaning to the word
paranoid in that you think I (identifiably Christian on 
net.religion.jewish ) am the equivalent
of a "body snatcher" who is agressively on the hunt for Jews to convert
through deception or whatever method works.  (I keep a set of brass
knuckles and thumbscrews hanging from the gun-rack of my pick-up at
all times...)

Also a tad prideful Mr Esan ?  Didn't the Pharisees also have a similar
prayer thanking God that they were also not women ?

I think the infamous Saul of Tarsus expressed your prayer with a little
more humility and in a little more positive vein 

" I am what I am by the Grace of God."

Further, I am not a Reverend.  Perhaps you can get Mr BenDavid to 
explain about the different branches of Christianity...not all use
that term :-)

Bob Brown {...ihnp4!akgua!rjb}