Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!mangoe From: mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Brief informatory message about a contributor Message-ID: <1162@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Nov-84 20:28:42 EST Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.1162 Posted: Fri Nov 16 20:28:42 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 18-Nov-84 20:41:40 EST References: <1006@umcp-cs.UUCP> <269@pyuxd.UUCP> Organization: U of Maryland, Computer Science Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 61 In article <269@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes: >I feel no compunctions about reposting this. It is not from private mail, >but rather from a public posting in net.news by one Charlie Wingate. Perhaps >it will shed some light on his true feelings towards members of other >religions, and on the real thrusts behind his statements and articles. > >> It's not at all clear that distribution works. (It's also damn hard to >> tell when it isn't working; I suppose some Jew-baiting in net.religion.jewish >> would be an easy way to find out!) [CHARLIE WINGATE] > >For those who wish to see the entire article, it may be found in newsgroup >net.news (Article ), and those using vnews or some other tool >that implements a *p*arent command will find that such a command will print >the article in question for your perusal while you are reading this article. >(I, for one, back up my statements with documentaion rather than saying "I >already answered that!") >-- >Now I've lost my train of thought. I'll have to catch the bus of thought. > Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr Since the form of Rich's announcement implies that my net.news posting shows me to be hopelessly anti-semetic (as do the newsgroups he selected), I am going to explain why I made such a statement, so that those who are not familiar with Rich Rosen will not be led to the wrong conclusion. Those who subscribe to net.test may have noticed an article there in which I was trying to determine if there were some failures in the distribution feature. These articles met with resounding silence. I then put up the aformentioned articles in net.news in hopes of finding a wider audience. The comment about jew-baiting was intended to point up the fact that I would have been able to get responses by posting something sensitive and inflammatory in a group where I would be sure to find lots of readers who would object. Rich's article implies that I picked net.religion.jewish because I have some particular grudge or something against jews. Those who actually know me know this is not the case. That group came to mind as the natural result of two months of argument with Yirmiyahu and Rich (who has an apparently jewish surname, I notice); I could just as well have chosen to suggest pro-rape articles in net.women. Some people obviously cannot recognize a joke when they see one. Some people recognize the joke but would have it taken for something else to further their own causes. Those who have gone to the trouble to follow the argument between Rich and I over the last month will be aware that Rich would rather put his beliefs concerning my thoughts into my mouth, rather than argue against what I have actually said. Those who didn't: well, I can hardly blame you. Judging from what I have read, Rich is either utterly ignorant of my beliefs, or is engaging in a campaign of distortion which I for one find rather unethical. I would prefer to believe the former; I can be convinced of the latter. I have no intentions of posting to net.religion.jewish past this article. I have found the hebrew content higher than what I can deal with, and as a christian I don't find the dicussions particularly interesting. Charley Wingate umcp-cs!mangoe Where true charity and love are found, god himself is there.