Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site hou5a.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!ariel!hou5f!hou5e!hou5d!hou5a!hbb From: hbb@hou5a.UUCP (H.B.Braude) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: roundabout question regarding "onaat devarim" Message-ID: <626@hou5a.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Nov-84 11:29:42 EST Article-I.D.: hou5a.626 Posted: Mon Nov 19 11:29:42 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Nov-84 03:10:37 EST Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 32 [The 1st attempt at posting this didn't work.] There is a halacha that I was told in the name of the Mishna Brurah, obligating one to close a window in a room where someone in that room feels uncomfortable due to the cold outside air. This ruling would apply even if there was only one person who was bothered by the cold weather among several people. In fact, according to this halacha, if the other people would feel bothered by the window being closed (they're too hot,) the window would still have to be closed. My question is whether the same logic would apply to something called "Onaat Devarim" - a prohibition against saying something to someone that will make that person feel bad. If a person would be categorized as being over-sensitive (by comparison to other people in the society who would not be offended were similar comments made to them,) would one be required to control one's tongue to conform to the social norm or to that of the particular individual? (The connection is that the person the Mishna Brurah discusses is physically sensitive, while in the other case the person is emotionally sensitive.) By the way, the giving of "Musar" (moral instruction?) would not constitute "Onaat Devarim" even were the recipient to dislike the criticism, due to the special statement in the Torah of "hochayach tocheeyach et amitecha" (obligating each person to instruct his/her fellow if/when they err.) Thanks for any insight you can offer. -- Harlan B. Braude {most "backbone" sites}!hou5a!hbb