Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.17 $; site uiucdcsb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcsb!mcdaniel From: mcdaniel@uiucdcsb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Afterlife Message-ID: <27400007@uiucdcsb.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Nov-84 19:39:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcsb.27400007 Posted: Mon Nov 19 19:39:00 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Nov-84 01:03:09 EST References: <1902@pegasus.UUCP> Lines: 63 Nf-ID: #R:pegasus:-190200:uiucdcsb:27400007:000:2766 Nf-From: uiucdcsb!mcdaniel Nov 19 18:39:00 1984 I posted the original question. I received exactly one (1) reply, by private mail. (I wonder why there were no more replies -- was I offensive? was it a simple-minded question?) Anyway, here's an excerpt: ====================================================================== From ihnp4!ihuxs!megann Sun Oct 28 00:04:03 1984 Apparently-To: !uiucdcs!mcdaniel Status: RO [In my orginal posting, I mentioned that I am not Jewish, and asked "well, how many Jews do YOU know named McDaniel?" I should have known better!] hi there tim. i saw your posting in net.religion.jewish, and couldn't resist replying. you see, my name is mcroberts, and i AM jewish, although a jew by choice, which is a nice euphemism for a convert. but, i do know a family in dayton, ohio by the name of mcdime who are quite jewish from quite far back. so what's in a name? anyhow, i hope you'll get more definitive answers to your question about jewish views of the afterlife. the major one has to do with the messiah coming and ushering in the messianic age. at that point, it is believed that the "righteous of all the nations" will be resurrected and live together in perfect utopian bliss. the covenant of noah will be in effect (which includes only a vegetarian diet -- because of that, a little-known tradition that animals should be fed before people eat, like family pets, in anticipation of the messianic times when we will live in total peace with the animal kingdom as well -- guess what? i'm also an animal lover.) as for what happens to those who die in the meantime, my impression is that we sort of punt a lot. some standard phrases include things like "the l--d wouldn't create people just to destroy them again." of course, jewish thought is vehemently against any notion of doing good deeds in hope of a reward (good deeds are to be done because of their intrinsic value), so one loses the whole christian folklore of "be good so you can go to heaven." but, if you push it far enough, that's probably not held to completely, either. . . . ================================================================= So that's all I received about it. C'est la vie. ------------------ If I am obnoxious or if I flame, please find it in your heart to forgive me. If I am confused, ignorant, or wrong, please gently enlighten or correct me. UNIX is a trademark of ATT. VAX and PDP are trademarks of Digital Equipment Corp. The opinions expressed above are my own, and are not in any way indicative of the opinions of any other entity or group of entities in this universe. Void where taxed or prohibited by law. This space for rent. She bop, she bop. Tim McDaniel Usenet: ...{pur-ee|ihnp4|convex}!uiucdcs!mcdaniel Csnet: mcdaniel%uiuc@csnet-relay.arpa (really!)