Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucla-cs.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrba!cepu!ucla-cs!wales From: wales@ucla-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: To have children? Message-ID: <2303@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Mon, 19-Nov-84 18:59:50 EST Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.2303 Posted: Mon Nov 19 18:59:50 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Nov-84 01:33:00 EST References: <1257@eosp1.UUCP> Reply-To: wales@ucla-cs.UUCP (Rich Wales) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 42 I'm a Mormon. I hope you will all pardon a brief and careful intrusion into this newsgroup by a non-Jew, but I feel that the following conjec- ture by Toby Robison needs a bit of clarification: Whatever one thinks about the arguments for limiting the number of one's children, we should recognize that most of these argu- ments simply do not apply to groups of people who feel they are a dwindling minority. . . . Mormons currently have very high birthrates, which are necessary to preserve their chances of survival. Yes, it is true that we Mormons have comparatively high birthrates and do place a high value on children. Families in our church are encour- aged to have as many children as they reasonably can. We do recognize that not every couple can or should have a kid every year :-), and our members are permitted to use artificial birth control where, after care- ful consideration, they feel it is needed in order to "space out" the family. No, we do not perceive ourselves as "dwindling". Quite the contrary, as a group we are growing quite rapidly and have been for some time. Some of this growth is due to births; much of it is due to conversions. Our total worldwide membership right now is approaching 6 million; this is almost double what it was only a decade or so ago. I won't go into detail here as to why we place such a high priority on families and children. Such a discussion would inevitably get fairly deeply into Mormon religious beliefs; not only would this not be appro- priate for this newsgroup, but some people would undoubtedly interpret it as an attempt to proselytize and be offended thereby. While I am al- ways more than willing to explain and share my faith with anyone who is interested in knowing more about it, I would never want to be accused of ramming it down anyone's throat. Again, I hope no one will feel that my brief interjection into what is admittedly a "side point" in the ongoing discussion was out of place. -- Rich Wales UCLA Computer Science Department 3531 Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, CA 90024 // (213) 825-5683 ARPA: wales@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA UUCP: ...!{cepu,ihnp4,trwspp,ucbvax}!ucla-cs!wales