Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!gwyn From: gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) Newsgroups: net.bio,net.origins,net.sci Subject: Re: The missing step -- self-reproducing organisms Message-ID: <5986@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Wed, 21-Nov-84 09:47:53 EST Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.5986 Posted: Wed Nov 21 09:47:53 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Nov-84 03:04:51 EST References: gatech.10770 <3469@ecsvax.UUCP> <10810@gatech.UUCP> <1262@hao.UUCP> <474@uwmacc.UUCP> <16506@lanl.ARPA> Organization: Ballistic Research Lab Lines: 16 The fallacy was in attempting to lump the concepts "has occurred during the past N years" and "has a probability P of occurring in N years" together to decide that P = 1. Probability in its technical sense has properties somewhat different from its everyday usage. The attempt to estimate probabilities for rare events is fraught with difficulty. A recent example is the attampt to determine nuclear reactor safety: How does one estimate the probability of a specific class of failure that has never yet been observed? What are the odds for a reactor having a catastrophic meltdown? What are the odds of a Three-Mile Island class disaster (1 has been observed in N reactor- years; is the correct answer "1/N reactors per year"?)? Sampling theory tells us that the relative error of a mean value computed from N samples is 1/sqrt(N - 1). When N is 0 or 1, what is the expected error of the estimate?