Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utah-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!utah-cs!j From: j@utah-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sci Subject: Theatrical Hypnotism and Santa Claus Message-ID: <3115@utah-cs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 22-Nov-84 16:48:10 EST Article-I.D.: utah-cs.3115 Posted: Thu Nov 22 16:48:10 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Nov-84 03:45:08 EST Sender: j@utah-cs.UUCP Organization: Univ of Utah CS Dept Lines: 60 Yesterday I was reminded of the feeling which most children have when they learn that Sant Claus is nonexistent. A group of friends took me to see 'Raveen' at the Capitol Theatre here in Salt Lake City. An overwhelming stack of evidence convinced me that this guy hypnotized nobody throughout his entire show. A few things that come to my mind are: 1) After he had 'sorted out' those which 'were not in the super- conscious state', *all* of his suggestions were followed precisely as he described (with the actors adding minor improvisations now and then). 2) Some of the actors were obviously more experienced and convincing than others. In particular, one guy, who was told to act like a very old man playing his banjo, had troubles with his spoken line (which sounded like a part of a prepared script), and looked like he was trying hard not to laugh at his own act. Another actor, apparently more experienced, seemed to steal the show by usually 'hamming it up' to a greater extent than the others. (At one time he was told by Raveen that he was Lassie {the dog}, and pretended to do the sort of thing that dogs do near fire hydrants.) 3) When a group of 'hypnotized' people were all asked to do the same thing, they did the task in curiously similar manners. Although the English language is comprehensive enough to convey their instructions, I would be inclined to think that their individual imaginations would interpret the instructions more differently than they did on stage (their *were* closed while they received the instructions). 4) One of my friends had seen the show just 4 days before I saw it, and recognized about 6 of the 20 or 30 people that were chosen to act. She (my friend) said that they received free tickets, and must have wanted to be hypnotized again. I doubt it. Perhaps that was enough to give you an idea of the indications that I spoke of. My questions for the net are these: o All of the others in my group actually believed that some of those had been hypnotized. Now I myself believe in hypnotism, but not in this *theatrical* hypnotism (albeit, I must say that I was mildly entertained at times). Have any of you actually been hypnotized on stage? (thus indicating that I may be wrong) o I was called 'skeptical' by my friends. Are there actually that many people in our civilization that are so naive and gullible as to believe this sort of hypnotism theatrics? (if so, perhaps I can use this knowledge to make some bucks; I'm only 19 right now) As I mentioned above, I see no reason that theatrical hypnotism cannot be regarded as magic shows are, and thus be entertaining. It's just that I used to believe (when I was about 8; the last time before yesterday when I saw a similar show) that people were being hypnotized on stage. Enlightenedly yours, Gary L. Crum oper.crum@utah-20.arpa University of Utah Computer Science Department decvax!utah-cs!crum