Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!ward From: ward@hao.UUCP (Mike Ward) Newsgroups: net.bio,net.origins,net.sci Subject: Re: The missing step -- self-reproducing organisms Message-ID: <1274@hao.UUCP> Date: Sat, 24-Nov-84 15:04:16 EST Article-I.D.: hao.1274 Posted: Sat Nov 24 15:04:16 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Nov-84 09:11:50 EST References: gatech.10770 <3469@ecsvax.UUCP> <10810@gatech.UUCP> <1262@hao.UUCP>, <474@uwmacc.UUCP> <812@utastro.UUCP> Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 25 > I think the concept that everyone is trying to get at here is this: > >If an event has a probability of occuring that is greater than zero, and there >are an infinite number of attempts at it, then the probability that it will >eventually occur is indeed 1, no matter how small the probability that it will >happen on a given attempt. The only assumption needed here is that time >goes on forever (and I'm not going to debate that here, I take that as a given). The relevence of this argument to the question at hand rests with the assumption that time goes on forever. Since there is no evidence that this is so, to make such an assumption is little more than a religious belief. Even if one were to assume that time goes on forever, there is no evidence that an infinite amount of time has already passed, and so the argument as a proof that the probability of life arising by this point in the life of a universe is invalid. -- "The number of arguments is unimportant unless some of them are correct." Michael Ward, NCAR/SCD UUCP: {hplabs,nbires,brl-bmd,seismo,menlo70,stcvax}!hao!ward ARPA: hplabs!hao!sa!ward@Berkeley BELL: 303-497-1252 USPS: POB 3000, Boulder, CO 80307