Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site garfield.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!garfield!derek2 From: derek2@garfield.UUCP (Derek S Keeping) Newsgroups: net.sci Subject: Re: Theatrical Hypnotism and Santa Claus Message-ID: <2081@garfield.UUCP> Date: Mon, 26-Nov-84 13:31:55 EST Article-I.D.: garfield.2081 Posted: Mon Nov 26 13:31:55 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 26-Nov-84 21:43:57 EST References: <3115@utah-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: derek2@garfield.UUCP (Derek S Keeping) Organization: Memorial U. of Nfld. C.S. Dept., St. John's Lines: 46 Summary: Does he or doesn't he! I have seen 'Raveen' twice, both times with different groups. I'm no great fan of Theatrical Hypnosis, however I do find it entertaining on occasion. As to whether or not the subjects were actually hypnotised I can't say first-hand as I was never hypnotised. However on both occasions I have seen the show a member of the group has gone on stage and been apparently hypnotised. On the first occasion the person was just a friend so I suppose she could quite possibly be covering up. However the person at the second show is now my fiance, and I would be very surprised if she covered up something like that to me. Also it is true that people get free passes to return to the show after being hypnotised. The reason being that they are supposed to be able to watch the show instead of taking part. However I would guess that if the suggestions given at the end of the show actually take hold there would at least a mild compulsion to return to the stage instead of watching the show. Which is certainly a bonus for 'Raveen' as he has what could be considered a reliable subject who very probably will return to appear in future shows. Again as evidence I offer my fiance who claims to have taken part in five shows over several tours without once sitting in the audience. In case I seem totally unquestioning I will point out that there are some remarkable similarities between what you mention of the show you saw. In particular the dog episode. It may well be that the joke is a part of subconsious behavior and most people will do that sort of thing if commanded to act like a dog. Not being an expert I couldn't say. However what seems more likely to me is that 'Raveen' has a group of people planted in the audience to fill out the group if there are too few subjects, and to add entertainment if the show starts to get to dull. I also seem to recall hearing somewhere that if a group of people are told to act as if they are hypnotised and carrying on with the show the majority would do so. Any pointers or comments on this? Finally I must say that I find the first part of the show totally inane. On the two occasions that I saw the show he completed a magic square and performed a knights tour. Relativly simple problems once the method is learned. Yet there were people in the audience cheering him on and applauding each move. If people are willing to pay money to see people do things like this maybe there is a small fortune to be made out there. Derek S. Keeping. {allegra,inhp4,utcsrgv}!garfield!derek2