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From: chenr@tilt.FUN (Ray Chen)
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Subject: Re: Discovered David Brin
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Date: Sun, 18-Nov-84 16:33:10 EST
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Posted: Sun Nov 18 16:33:10 1984
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> >> It may not have been on the same subject, but it is in the same "future
> >> history" as the first two.  There are several references in The
> >> Practice Effect that indicate that the world in which the beginning
> >> takes place is the same earth where Sundiver takes place.
> >> 
> >> 	-paul asente

> The Practice Effect, page 17:
> "I've made a real neat picture of the launch tower in Ecuador!  You
> know, the Vanilla Needle?"

So they both have a launch tower in Ecuador.  Big deal.  Ecuador is one
of the obvious places to put one of those things.  You're missing the
fact that there are things in the Practice Effect which make its
universe incompatible with that of Sundiver and Startide Rising.

	1)  The ziev effect, which is the whole reason behind the events in
	    the Practice Effect.  While the Galactic races in Sundiver/Startide
	    Rising possess probability-altering stardrives, nobody has anything
	    like the zievatron.  The ziev effect supposedly became one of the
	    two major facets of human civilization.

	2)  The large number of human-colonized planets and the conspicuous
	    absence of any mention of the Galactics, plus the fact that
	    human race uses genetically engineered, intelligent animals
	    in the place of machines.  This in itself is totally incompatible
	    with the spirit behind Uplift.


	Ray Chen
	princeton!tilt!chenr