Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!acf4!greenber From: greenber@acf4.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Association for Women in Computing Message-ID: <10400018@acf4.UUCP> Date: Fri, 23-Nov-84 12:53:00 EST Article-I.D.: acf4.10400018 Posted: Fri Nov 23 12:53:00 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Nov-84 21:01:17 EST References: <1339@ihuxq.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 33 Nf-ID: #R:ihuxq:-133900:acf4:10400018:000:1656 Nf-From: acf4!greenber Nov 23 12:53:00 1984 <> Now, ken, do you really expect me to take a case like the aforementioned black family and their horrific circumstances and compare that to Association of Women in Computers?? Isn't that streching it a bit?? First, in the case of the black family, they were subject to extraordinary prejudice that resulted in a threat to their lives and AWC just doesn't rank with that! Second, the black family was subjected to something that was not in their control. AWC is creating this situation from scratch. Any problems that might have been resolved in the general public (some group that doesn't (officially or unofficially) cater to one sex or the other) by the potential members of AWC is being removed from the general public in a "our interests are not your interests" kind of Mexican standoff. I just don't see it. And as to the idea of sitting in circles or sitting in the back of buses? The persons who refused to sit in the back of the buses were making an active statement. They had a legitimate gripe, and they worked to rectify it. Their courage allows for the potential membership of AWC to come foward within a non-sexist group and to state their LEGIMATE gripes and to seek redress. The people that sat in the back of the buses were making a public statement as well. What will AWC do when they are confronted by a case of sexist prejudice?? Well, if they do not stay a part of the mainstream, not much. And again: if you state you are different, then you deserve to be treated differently. And differently does not mean better. It just means differently! Ross M. Greenberg @ NYU ----> allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber <----